Users want the ability to download a version of the original document with current annotations applied to the document.
We are very concerned that unless these annotations are easier to make use of it is going to completely stall the progress we have made on electronic management of assessment.
It's not just so that students can retain their annotations, this is vital, but also how can students use the annotations to feed forward onto their next piece of work? The best kind of annotations are ones that can help with the next piece of work but if students need to constantly re-open them one at a time they won't be able to.
We have to have a better way to display / download annotations and we need it urgently.
I think Alicia McConnell makes a really good point here - not only are the downloading of annotated assignments vital to send to external verifiers and other people who do not have access to the VLE, but they are vital for the students themselves.
Yes excellent points and fully agree. I've shared this with Blackboard separately, but here are some use cases for the downloading of assignments with annotations:
•Students can reflect on their feedback outside of the VLE
•Students can share their annotated submissions with prospective employees
•Students can put annotated submissions in their porfolios
•Students can share their annotated submissions with other institutions -e.g. for post-doc/post-grad study.
•Staff can share exemplar annotated submissions with other students and staff
•Institutions can store annotated submissions outside of the VLE for audit/QA purposes
•Electronic Assessment and Feedback is a key theme in the TEF 2016 Survey
As everyone has already said, the ability to download a copy of the annotations and feedback is really important. This can be key for students, or for sharing with other members of staff (whether full members of the institution or not). It is also useful for training - being able to show staff new to marking what students will see and to create feedback exemplars. It also gives confidence that we have a permanent record of the feedback available at the time, should the systems change again.
As an instructor and faculty liaison assisting my peers with Blackboard at Wisconsin's largest technical college, I was excited when Blackboard introduced Crocodoc, as were the vast majority of my peers. It now saddens me to see the elimination of Crocodoc and the implementation of a substandard substitution. Our mission, as it should also be for Blackboard, is to support our students - period. The omission of the ability to download annotations within Box View, as well as other Crocodoc functions, directly interferes with this mission. Please address these issues immediately before it results in negatively impacting our students.
It's a shame I can only vote for this once!
Without this feature we have had a hard sell to faculty who have prompted students to download annotations in the past. We have faculty switching to using markup with Microsoft Word comments or Turnitin Feedback Studio instead of using the Inline Grading tool........ Please include this feature!
By all means . . . . YES! This is going to be difficult to explain to our students and instructors why they can't do this - especially since the download and print buttons are so obvious, but of such little use!
We have been asking for this since we saw the product in early October. I also sent you an email about it.
So I am not sure why we are voting now three months later.
Yes we all need this sooner rather than later.
Definitely, need this option, all of my constituents were not happy about this information when I relayed it.
I'm going to leave some feedback from one of our schools that had just moved over wholesale this academic year to e-marking using Crocodoc, as an example of why this comments download has to be restored asap. We're extremely concerned about the impact on student learning.
"I missed the most important point about the changes: Students cannot download their commented submissions any longer.
Now that is severely damaging our provisions for feedback because we don't want our students to have to click through numerous pages to collect the comments on their solutions when for example preparing for exams. Actually, some colleagues already stated that they don't see how to continue e-marking in a reasonable way under these circumstances."
I'm surprised we're even voting on this. It should have been built in right from the word 'GO'.
I proposed some time ago also Word count in the document (now New Box View): Word count in Crocodoc Assignment document
Thank goodness we're all on the same page. We just could have some drama here
We need this desperately. We understood that a workaround was 'printing the .pdf' but the PDF does not seem to show the comments either so that's a washout. If you know of any kind of workaround, please let us know ASAP.
Yes, this feature is required.
We don't have Turnitin ....relying solely on Blackboard assignments and it really is imperative that tutors and students have the same functionality as currently exists. I'm going to go on an extended holiday when we make the switch.
I think that is a must.... we really need it.
Essential for students involved in grade appeals. They need their own copies of the course work to make their case.
Adding an annotated document directly via 'Add from course' to a student portfolio would be a significant added value as well.
We need to have the ability to download a version of the original document with current annotations applied to the document. We haved used Bb since 2001. This a relevant issue both for students and examinators. E-assessment must be developed more with the Bb-community further on. The workflow for both formative and summative e-assessment must be better in Bb futher on.
I agree with other comments that downloading annotations is essential, not only for student review and improvement, but for higher education accreditation requirements. How are we to provide documentation for quality assurance and accreditation while redacting student names? Inability to include this feature should have been a non-starter before switching. Feedback to students is not a simple social media post!
The idea that Blackboard wouldn't at the very minimum keep the features of Crocdoc ticks me off. If this is not fixed, I will strongly encourage every institution I work for to switch to a competitor's learning management system. The functionality of Crocdoc saves me many hours each week. I want to be able to simply click and comment on my students' work like I always have. The administrators have Blackboard have made a big mistake here.
Bryan, you need to remember that the Crocodoc functionality was never "owned" by Blackboard. The inline grading has always been 3rd party owned.
Yet another product "FEATURE" that I will actively tell instructors to ignore by not mentioning it. It's back to downloading each document marking it up and uploading it back for review by student. Such a timesaver!
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